What does it mean to be “God’s Man (or Woman?)”

“If a man knows not what harbor he seeks, any wind is the right wind.” – Seneca

As a Dad to three girls and three boys I have been given the great privilege of helping my kids sail toward the right harbor of Christlikeness and the responsibility of helping them know the right winds that might take them there. The Scriptures exhort us to “act like men” (1 Cor 16:13 NASB) yet when you ask many men today what it is to be a Godly man, they cannot give you a biblically based answer (much less model a biblically informed life). Same with too many women. The New Testament exhorts them to “adorn themselves with ‘proper’ clothing…. as is proper for women making a claim to Godliness” (1 Tim 2:9a; 10b).

As a “warrior” that is given 6 arrows (Psalm 127) it is my job to “aim” them while given the time. In light of this, years ago I sat down and wrote down 5 broad categories of Biblical manhood and womanhood with a general explanation of each and relevant verses. These are the “winds” that Wagner men and women are trying to “catch” as we head toward the life our Lord has called us to. Use them as much as they are useful to you or better yet come up with your own biblically supported definition of a Godly man/woman. I’d love to hear your thoughts and learn from your prayerful efforts. 

Feel free to right click and save these documents, pass them along to a friend, or share them on your social networks. If you would like to download them as a pdf you may do so by characteristics of Godly man and women or  you can hit the links above to hear messages that will provide more encouragement on the topic.


5S Man web pdf

5S Women web pdf

A Few Thoughts On Exodus’ Ministries Exodus From Ministry


The quotes below are from Alan Chambers’ comments as reported in this story. (You’ll find my responses below each quote.)

 “I am sorry that there were times I didn’t stand up to people publicly ‘on my side’ who called you names like sodomite — or worse.”

Good for you Alan. Any believer that doesn’t stand up to people (professed Christ-followers or not) who are not speaking the truth in love should repent (Proverbs 27:5-6; Colossians 4:5-6). Here is a message I gave on the topic years ago where I acknowledge and speak out against the years of failure the “church” has on its résumé in loving the LGBTQ community.

 “I am sorry we promoted sexual orientation change efforts and reparative theories about sexual orientation that stigmatized parents….”

I am sorry as well that “reparative therapy theories” or “stigmatizing parents” were ever the chosen methods of a ministry seeking to help people struggling with same sex attraction (or anything). The hope of God’s word is that we will be able to overcome our bondage to self through the mercy and power available in a relationship with Jesus Christ. This relationship allows us to not be conformed to this world, or our sinful desires, but rather to live in a way that is good, acceptable, perfect and free from guilt and shame (Romans 12:1-12).

“In a 2009 report, the American Psychological Association concluded that “there is insufficient evidence to support the use of psychological interventions to change sexual orientation.”

No new news here. God’s word has been offering that truth for thousands of years. There is, however, an abundance of evidence that Jesus offers to all men everywhere the means through which we can die to ourselves (1 Cor 10:13; Gal 2:20) and live in relationship with Him in obedience to His kindness which produces hope, joy , righteousness and peace (Proverbs 3:13-18; 21:21).

“Chambers, who is married to a woman, said in his apology that over the years, he had “conveniently omitted my ongoing same-sex attractions.”

Isolation and inauthenticity are never our friends. It is sad for him that his study of God’s word or fellowship didn’t continually teach/remind him of this. Too many men “conveniently omit” their ongoing temptations to their own destruction (Proverbs 18:1; James 5:16). Temptation (of any kind) is NOT sin (James 1:14-15). Isolation, inauthenticity and lack of confession however are.

“They brought me tremendous shame and I hid them in the hopes they would go away,” he said. “Looking back, it seems so odd that I thought I could do something to make them stop. Today, however, I accept these feelings as parts of my life that will likely always be there.”

Jesus never promises to take away our temptations. He hasn’t taken away mine either. Hiding our struggles doesn’t make them go away. Confessing our sins and seeking prayer and encouragement while living in the freedom of a grace-filled community that loves and honors the Word of God delivers us from guilt and shame and is part of the Lord’s means of grace which allows us to walk in the freedom His grace makes possible. Christ, His Spirit, His word and His people provide the grace and power to not be a slave to our temptations (whatever they are), but rather a slave to righteousness (Titus 3:3-7; Col 3:5). I accept that I am not with my King in a glorified body yet, and therefore I daily must be vigilant against my flesh, the ways of this world and the enemy who has come to steal my joy, kill my hope and character and destroy my relationship with God and others (2 Peter 3:17).

“Our goals are to reduce fear and come alongside churches to become safe, welcoming and mutually transforming communities,”

I am praying for Alan. May the Lord continue His work in his life and may somehow he come to know of the joy I have living in the midst of a local church that is a safe, welcoming and transforming community free from fear or the need to isolate.

Alan….I hope this blog post makes its way to you and you can come visit us at Watermark where there are thousands of transformed and constantly tempted men and women of all sexual preferences and backgrounds that are by God’s grace abiding with Jesus and walking in freedom (1 Corinthians 6:11).

From the Reuters story on the same topic:

Exodus International’s mission statement was “mobilizing the body of Christ to minister grace and truth to a world impacted by homosexuality.”

Here is praying that this continues to be the passion of every member of the body of Christ not just to those struggling with same sex attraction, but to all and every person struggling to find life in a world impacted by sin and death. Here is praying that the way we go about ministering is consistent with the Truth of God’s Word and not the confusion that comes from ways that seem right to man but in the end are the way of death (Proverbs 14:12).





Does God Love Us More As We Keep His Commandments?


To: pastoraloffice@watermark.org

From: xxxx


… I attended your 9:00 a.m. service this morning and in discussing things afterwards, had one item that we wanted to touch base with you on to see if we misunderstood the message. I’ll give you a bit of information on me a little lower in this email (in the interest of full disclosure), but as for the discussion we had, you stated a couple of times that “God loves us first, then we love him, and if we love him, he will love us even more.” I suppose the question for you is whether the idea of God loving us more (after we love him) is an accurate understanding of the message you were conveying this morning (with the obvious understanding that this was just a part of the overall message you were preaching about this morning)…

… I think we were all struggling with the idea that God could somehow love us more if we love him. It seems like the overall message that you preach about, at least from a conceptual/30,000 foot view, is of a God that loves all people unconditionally and wants to have everyone be in a relationship with Him (and sent Jesus here to die for our sins and that we are saved by the grace of God), and I’m not sure how a God that loves like that could love us more (and love us more if we love him back).

I hope this email doesn’t sound like nit-picking of your message today…our little group was just a bit confused on this point. I appreciate your time. Thanks in advance,




I love your question. It totally encourages me that you are listening, wrestling with what you hear, talking with others about what you hear and most importantly that you want to study the Scriptures to see if the things you are hearing are biblically justified (Acts 17:11) and I appreciate it because it gives me the chance to talk more about God’s love. Below, in bullet points, is what I (http://www.watermark.org/media/series/312/ ) said and what I meant when I said John 14 shows us how God loves us more as we keep His commandments. Let me review the highlights of the message using bullet points for ease and clarity. I think I shared all this in the message yesterday so if you go back and listen you will hear it again…maybe in a slightly different order but it should all be there!

First of all, let me start by clarifying one thing. God CANNOT love anyone any more than He already has if, when talking about love, you are talking about the greatest love possible being the love you show when you give your life for another. (John 15:13) Jesus gave His life for the world (John 3:16, 10:11; Romans 5:8; 1 Tim 1:15; 2:4) so in this sense God loves all of us the same and can NOT love any of us anymore. That being said…here is how God “loves us more”.

God will disclose more (and I used love in this sense) if we abide with Him. John 14:21, 23,-24 make it clear that the more you abide with God the more you EXPERIENCE His love, His goodness, His grace, His kindness. Or to say it another way, we experience more of His love as we love Him more. We have an “epiphany” of Him, an unveiling, opening or revealing as he discloses Himself to us and in this way as we experience MORE of His love, His goodness, His grace and His kindness; we have tasted and seen the Lord is good (Psalm 34:8) and we therefore know Him more and in knowing Him more receive more of His love. Not only in the joy of our salvation, but in the reality of our experience.

John 14 seems to be saying, “you want to know more of God’s love? Let God who already has and WANTS to love ALL men more, love you more by abiding with Him and learning MORE of His love. Accept His word, believe in His Son, walk in His Spirit, believe in His name and enjoy the blessing of His goodness.” Isaiah says it well: “Come now, and let us reason together,” Says the Lord, “Though your sins are as scarlet, They will be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They will be like wool.19 “If you consent and obey, You will eat the best of the land;20 “But if you refuse and rebel, You will be devoured by the sword.” Truly, the mouth of the Lord has spoken.” (Isaiah 1:18–20)

God loves all men but some men experience MORE of God’s love.

Jesus had this in mind also when in Matt 13:11-13 (see especially verse 12) He told His disciples that He was going to give more of Himself to those who already had the most of Him and the more you take of Him the more of Him you will keep receiving.

Praying you taste and see His love for you by abiding in every way He intends and by running toward every provision He has made for you. I think you will see more of His love every time you walk in it. Remember, a huge part of walking with Him is obeying Him every chance you get, so you may experience His goodness and provision every time you do it. Trust in Him You will never regret any part of God disclosing more (John 14:21) of His person (God is love 1 John 4:8) to you.

God loves us first and will love us in return for our loving His love for us.

1 John 4:19,






What Is The Difference Between Lust And Sexual Attraction?


The following is a recent exchange I had. I hope it encourages and sharpens you.


Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 22:38:33 -0600

To: pastoraloffice@watermark.org

Subject: Lust and  Attraction

Mr Wagner,

I have a very important question that most Christian men probably ask. What is the difference between lust and sexual attraction? It seems that the distinction between the two is always blurred. Is it possible to sense sexual attraction to a woman without lusting after her? I was talking to a friend tonight, and he told me that lust is distinguished by complete selfishness. Lust involves looking at a woman as simply an object of sexual desire while disregarding the fact that she is a human being with emotions and needs. Sexual attraction, on the other hand, is possible along with selflessness and respect for a woman even if the man is not committed to her in marriage. In other words, sexual attraction can exist without lust. Do you agree with this view? This is an important subject for me personally because from puberty till recent times, I was always given the impression that a man’s sexual attraction to a woman is solely based on lust, vulgarity, and misogyny. Many men do not feel like they ever lust after a woman; therefore, they question if they are capable of experience sexual attraction to a woman and then conclude that they are not attracted to women at all. In this country, it is probably reasonable to assume that every young male has this impression. Shouldn’t a man experience sexual attraction to his girlfriend or fiancée to know if he will be sexually attracted to her in future marriage? If it’s acceptable for him to be physically or emotionally attracted to her before marriage, why can’t he be sexually attracted to her as well?




Xxxxx…thanks for your patience in letting me get back with you. You email was around a flurry of many more, but as of today, I am glad to tell you it was not forgotten. Now, on to your excellent question, and as I always want to do, let me run to Scripture as I look to serve you.

Temptation is not sin. We know this primarily because clearly our Lord was tempted and He never sinned (Matthew 4:1-11; Hebrews 4:15). Also, James 1:14-16 directly answers your question:

“But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust. Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death. Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren.”

James clearly states that lust isn’t sin, but lust when conceived (given life) always gives birth to sin. Sexual attraction is a normal aspect of human existence. If you think of lust as a desire to have what we want, regardless of God’s described best or others’ ultimate good then you see why we are not to let it rule us. Anything that rules us other than the Spirit of God is going to lead to death.

Sexual attraction is God’s gift. Meeting a God-given desire in a God-forbidden way is sin. This is why we are called to take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ (2 Corinthians 10:5). So, I would say that your friend seems to be on the right path. Check out Solomon’s take on his attraction to his bride in Song of Solomon and you will read more of how God wants us to enjoy our spouses in a healthy, sexual way. Not only is the Lord not bothered by their attraction to one another, He encourages them to “drink deeply”. Wanting the drink is not the problem. Where you drink might be.

We are not to be ruled by this thirst (even in marriage), but in all things we want to be ruled by Christ. How great that part of His rule is to allow us the joy of sexual intimacy with another human in a way that leads to life, pleasure and shameless joy. I would suggest that there probably ought to be a healthy level of sexual attraction between any couple that spends time together, which is one of the reasons we have to be wise in how we spend time together before we are married, lest we “awaken love before it’s time” (Song of Solomon 2:7;3:5)

Though not the ultimate reason for marriage, sex is a part of it, and it is not at all unhealthy that you should have to exercise discipline to remain pure with that person before you marry them. It is plenty unhealthy if you don’t, but that is another blog for another day. Remember, self-control is evidence that the Spirit of God is active in your life (Galatians 5:22ff). Sexual attraction is normal and God-given, and it must be governed by God-given principles and our reliance on His Spirit, which He graciously has given to those who believe. Don’t ever meet a legitimate need in an illegitimate way. Pain, guilt and shame await when we do.

Really glad you reached out, but let me encourage you even more to reach out to others here at Watermark who can run with you every day on topics like this. I am CCing the community team here as I know they would love to connect with you, hear more of your story, and introduce you to other men who can walk through questions such as this with you. Jump in with other believers deeply friend. Proverbs 18:1 has a lot to say about the sad state of those who go at this life alone.

Finally, in case you missed it, you should check out the great series done at the Porch on sex…you can find the link below and I think it, along with living in community with others, will be extremely helpful to you.


If you want a good couple of messages on temptation in general, check out the “Way of Escape” series I did a few years back.

Press on friend, and don’t forget the truth of 1 Corinthians 10:13. You are not alone and you are not unable to keep your lust from giving “birth”.


 Do you have a question for Todd? Please send your question to pastoraloffice@watermark.org. We’d love to hear from you.

Making The Invisible Kingdom, Visible; Part 1

breakpoint-todd-wagner-interview-marriage-ministry-watermarkI recently had the privilege of  talking with John Stonestreet of Break Point about how we are making the invisible kingdom visible by investing into marriages here at Watermark. You can check out the interview below, and I’d encourage to also check out the various opportunities available to help your marriage become a clearer reflection of the Invisible Kingdom.

(Click the play button to check out the interview.)

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3 Things A Rapist Reminds Us About Living In A Wretched World

"...In his hand are the depths of the earth..." - Psalm 95:4

“…In his hand are the depths of the earth…” – Psalm 95:4

As anyone who lives in our area has become painfully aware, there have been a recent series of sexual assaults on women and consistent threats of acts of terror in local school districts. Unsurprisingly, these events are creating a growing sense of insecurity and even fear among an ever-growing number, and many have asked for my thoughts on how to shepherd yourself and others during these times.

Here are a few thoughts:

1. This is earth

The truth is that every day is filled with dangers, toils, and snares, many that have already come and many more that are coming. Any confidence we have that we are going to be continually free from the brokenness that defines our fallen world is misplaced. As the song says, “My hope is built on nothing less, Than Jesus’ blood and righteousness. I dare not trust the sweetest frame, But wholly trust in Jesus’ Name.” Rather than asking how these things happen, we should marvel that the “restrainer” keeps them from happening more. Believers must remind themselves of this everyday. We are not home yet. We are on assignment in enemy territory and sadness is never far away.

2. When others suffer because this is earth we should not think truth alone should quiet them.

God tells us this is earth, that we are at war, and that trouble is coming – but He also “comforts us in all our affliction so that we will be able to comfort those who are in any affliction with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God.” (2 Corinthians 1:4) He tells us to “Rejoice with those who rejoice, and weep with those who weep.” (Romans 12:15). These are not just days to parade our theological assurances, they are also days to provide incarnational tenderness and comfort. The closer we are to those suffering, the closer our actions ought to reflect Jesus’ actions near those in pain. (see John 11…where our Savior shared truth AND tears.)

3.) While Jesus tarries and we live among terrors, let us be diligent to remind others that greater terrors are to come if they do not come to know the One Who is the Savior.

(2 Peter 3:9-15) Bold proclamation of ALL of our need for a Savior (not just the rapists or terrorists) is both appropriate and ultimately the primary means that this world can be a little more kingdom-like until the Kingdom comes. How we as believers live in the midst of these days says much about the fact that Jesus is the King we claim. As a brother in Christ and fellow servant of at least two of the young ladies recently assaulted, I have been spurred on by the testimony widely observed of their faith, faithfulness, courage, and other-worldly peace. Pray with me for these dear women. Everybody wants to be Daniel but nobody wants the lion’s den. I am humbled to live among the saints in this city and pray our love for each other makes us stronger, our Savior more famous, and our city safer.

Praying with you for our land and our faithfulness in it.

1 Corinthians 16:13-14,


A Few Thoughts From Todd On Memorizing God’s Word

tips memorizing bible scripture


I’m a member of the *** community here at Watermark and one of the topics that JP often references is the amount of scripture you have memorized. I’ll admit, I’m often impressed by your ability to bring up, seemlingly, the perfect verse at the perfect time during Q&A and impromptu talks. I’ve read a few books on memorization, mostly because I don’t think my memorization is great. These books are good for helping remember names and events, but I don’t think it’s the best for memorizing scripture, quotes, or poems. As such, I wanted to ask about your approach to memorization. Is it through a series of tools like flash cards or read/repeat techniques? Or do you have another way of categorizing scripture in your mind?

Thanks for any guidance on this endeavor.



Love that you are wanting to get more Scripture committed to memory and are asking! One thing that I’d suggest (and a system I’ve used) is the Topical Memory System from the Navigators. You can check it out below, and Watermark’s Equipped Disciple ministry also goes through these verses. You might want to check that out and jump in with others. One of the keys to any commitment like this is having others around you spurring you on (I have cc’d XXXX who is the leader of EQ.)

Either way I would beg you to jump into life with others as a means to faithfully live out the Word…and joining a community group is a great place to start! I have CC’d Luke Friesen from our community ministry here so that he can help you find a community group if you don’t already have one.

As for my “personal method of memorization”….review, review, review…saturate in the Word….live in the Word…meditate and then review again. No real secret for me. Some use pictures and “mental markers”…that is awesome if it helps you but focus and review is what I have used. I am ccing Robbie Rice as well b/c he has a method that has proved helpful to others.

One last word ***…I’m praying whatever you memorize you double down in living! All the memorizing and reviewing do us know good if we don’t execute. So memorize and jump in on Hebrews 10:24-25 with me.

Encouraged ***…hope you experience the blessing of Psalm 1 by hiding God’s Word in your heart!

Matt 7:24,






To those of you reading this, what methods of memorizing God’s Word has been helpful to you? Leave a comment below and tell us about it.

Don’t Follow Your Passions…Follow Him

As I sat down January 1 to shepherd myself and my kids I decided to come up with a group of questions that we could ask ourselves EVERY DAY to evaluate how we are abiding with the One we profess to follow.  It all starts with daily learning more of Jesus and His ways and continually yielding to His Spirit which dwells in all who believe.  My deep conviction is that as our lives increasingly have full and meaningful answers to the following questions our lives will increase in joy, fullness and serve as a greater source of glory to our King.  I am sure you can improve on my list of questions, but as for me and my house, we are going to purpose to improve our ability to faithfully answer them every day (Matt 6:33-34).  Feel free to add your own….but in all your adding stay focused on using them to sharpen each day the Lord gifts you (Psalm 90:12). Check out more on these by listening to what I shared at Watermark this past Sunday here.  Hope you are encouraged!

What have you done to grow in wisdom and stature today?
What do you know today about God, His Word or His purposes that you did not know yesterday?
What are you going to do differently as a result of what you have learned?

1 Tim 4:7; James 1:22

How is this world or are others better today because you have stepped up and been God’s servant?
When you showed up, how was evil restrained, injustice conquered, love multiplied, captives rescued and/or joy increased.

Luke 4:16-21

What have you done today to make someone else know of God’s great love for them?  Has your motivation for everything been love of God and others?
“May this small act of kindness remind you of God’s great love for you.”

1 Cor 13:1

Have you laughed out loud today?
Have you laughed uncontrollably?
Have you laughed till you cried?
Have you made others laugh much today?

Prov 17:22

LIVE generously:
How have you shown generosity today?  Who is better off because God stewarded you with His resources?

2 Cor 8:9

LIVE with gratitude:
How have you expressed a heart filled with Thanksgiving today for the multitude of blessings you have received?

Eph 5:20;

LIFT others up:
Who have you encouraged today with a word, a phone call, an email, a note or a card?

Heb 3:13

LEAN on others:
Who are you relying on to spur you on?  Confront you? Shepherd you?
Who has access to your heart? Who faithfully reproves you?  Sharpens you?  Admonishes you when you are unruly?
When is the last time you repented and changed because someone who loves you “smote you in kindness”.

Ps 141:5; Pr 13:20

LIVE it all by faith (by yielding to the Spirit):
What have you done today that only makes sense because you believe in the grace of Christ and the resurrection of the dead?
Have you lived today by faith? By the power of in constant relationship with the Spirit?

Col 1:29; Eph 5:18


What do I do if want to be God’s man? How can I grow to love and lead like David?

Ok Porch (and all blog friends)…here is the short note I sent to someone a few years back that I promised last night I would post for you.  Below you’ll find my response to a question about how they could take new ground in their relationship with Christ and grow to love and lead like David.  So much more I could have said….but if you want a good quick response to the question, this short reply will serve you well.  I know I was spurred on myself when I reread it.

I LOVE your question. Good for you for asking…the test of your heart will be in the doing. In the end, what you need to do is easy….but difficult.  The soul of the sluggard craves and gets nothing, but the soul of the diligent is made fat. (Prov 13:20)

Learn.  Learn constantly.  Read.  Read well.  Meaning read the right stuff…which obviously means read God’s word ferociously…it alone is profitable for teaching, rebuke, correction and training in righteousness.   Ask people you respect what book has impacted them the most.  Read broadly…not just the pop Christian stuff…read old books that have stood the test of time.  When you read the bible…read it with a pen in your hand and an expectation that the Lord is going to give you something to deal with/learn from/act on etc……Read to ACT.

Lead.  The best way to grow is to put yourself in a place where you have to learn…and place where you have to stay fresh…a place where you need God to show up or you will crater.  A place that demands your attentiveness to Christ.  A place where you can give so you have purpose in your getting.  Teach.  Do not shy away from hard conversations.  Don’t let someone put a ceiling on you.  Dream, believe, act.  Responsibility is laying around everywhere…pick some up.  SERVE.

Be Loyal to your Lord.  “Many a man proclaims his own loyalty, but who can find a trustworthy man.” (Prov 20:6)  Make it your goal to be a man that the Lord wants to strongly support.  (see 2 Chron 16:9, Isaiah 66:2)

Choose your friends wisely.  Make allegiances with or depend on no one except sold out followers of Christ who want to see Jesus made more famous.  It is amazing how quickly we become like those with whom we spend time. (This works BOTH ways: see Prov 13:20; 1 Cor 15:33) Don’t allow folks with fortunes or fame to influence your actions….move by the leadership of the Spirit. 

Finally, seek the Lord…not leadership.  God uses faithful men…not self-promoting, inpatient men.  Be a Joseph and Pharaoh will find you.  Be a fraud and you will be found out.

Learn and lead….grow and give…don’t wait, start now.  Reject passivity, hate apathy, assume it is your time and your moment. Be a man of action. The precious possession of a man is diligence.. (Proverbs again!) You know the Lord wants you to be His man..so if there is not a steady sanctification in your life, it is not a problem with HIS will, it is a problem with yours. 

Praying for you friend…may both of us be overwhelmed how the Lord works in and through you.

Joshua 1:8,


Why Doesn’t Watermark Church Have A Cross On The Stage (Most Of The Time?)


Where’s the cross?

With technology today, one way I frequently interface with Watermark members and guests is through email. I typically get some excellent and thoughtful questions that I welcome the opportunity to respond to. These questions are great teaching moments for not only for myself and those who are asking, but also for anyone else who may have similar inqueries. From time-to-time I would love to leverage this blog in an endeavor to make those emails public and spark more conversation around them.

To kick this off, below is an email I recently received from Jason asking why we don’t have crosses on stage. Read below for his original question and my response back to him.


From: xxx
To: pastoraloffice
Subject: Cross?

Quick question…Why is there no cross on the stage?

From: Todd Wagner (pastoraloffice@watermark.org)
To: xxx
Subject: Re: Cross?

xxx…glad you asked. While we don’t have any objections to crosses being on stage (that is evident if you were here with us on Easter…if you weren’t, check out this video. Most of the time however, our set up does not typically include a cross on stage. The same is obviously true for the outside of our building but we earnestly pray it is never true in regard to the the testimony of our lives.

While a cross is an excellent reminder of Christ’s atoning death for us and our subsequent justification and death to sin, we also believe having a cross on our bodies or our building is not necessarily the best way to display our love for it or the Christ Who hung on it. I think you will agree that there are many who culturally wear a cross around their necks without having any understanding of its implication and also sadly agree that there are too many buildings with crosses on top of them that are full of leaders, followers and doctrines that do anything but reflect its glory.

As you know, Jesus says they will know we are His disciples by the way we LOVE one another, not by the way we decorate our stages, buildings or wardrobes. (John 13:34-35)

Bottom line, we have no objection to a cross being displayed anywhere in or on our building or bodies but we do pray that we have an increasing obsession to live our lives in such a way that others see us “pick up our cross daily and follow Jesus.”

Hope that helps xxx…I’m not sure if you are fully connected with us at Watermark, but would love to help you take steps towards doing so if you would desire that. Glad you reached out and hope you are out representing Christ by the way you lead, love, and serve today!

Todd Wagner | pastoraloffice@watermark.org
Watermark Community Church